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		<title>By: Matt-79</title>
		<link>http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/josh-portis-not-a-franchise-qb-281011/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt-79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way Jake Delhome, Bernie Kosar, Jeff Garcia, Curt Warner, Joe Namath, Steve Young and Warren Moon were all undrafted QBs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way Jake Delhome, Bernie Kosar, Jeff Garcia, Curt Warner, Joe Namath, Steve Young and Warren Moon were all undrafted QBs.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt-79</title>
		<link>http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/josh-portis-not-a-franchise-qb-281011/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt-79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[   I don&#039;t think the guy who wrote this article did any research on who Josh Portis is, where he&#039;s played, why he left and why he was not drafted or the fact that he finnished in the top 5 in EVERY drill at the combine or the fact he was even invited to the combine. The kid has a huge upside and we got him for peanuts. If he didn&#039;t have issues early in his college career he would have stayed a div 1 QB and had the opertunity to develope in 1 system and we wouldn&#039;t be having this conversation because he probably woud have been off the board before the conclusion of the second round. It must be fun to squash peoples hopes based on little to no knolege of a player. I hope you don&#039;t get paid for your articles cuz you really mail it in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>   I don&#8217;t think the guy who wrote this article did any research on who Josh Portis is, where he&#8217;s played, why he left and why he was not drafted or the fact that he finnished in the top 5 in EVERY drill at the combine or the fact he was even invited to the combine. The kid has a huge upside and we got him for peanuts. If he didn&#8217;t have issues early in his college career he would have stayed a div 1 QB and had the opertunity to develope in 1 system and we wouldn&#8217;t be having this conversation because he probably woud have been off the board before the conclusion of the second round. It must be fun to squash peoples hopes based on little to no knolege of a player. I hope you don&#8217;t get paid for your articles cuz you really mail it in.</p>
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		<title>By: Kshell</title>
		<link>http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/josh-portis-not-a-franchise-qb-281011/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Kshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t always choose the titles of an article. Don&#039;t let one word take away the point of over 500 words.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t always choose the titles of an article. Don&#8217;t let one word take away the point of over 500 words.</p>
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		<title>By: Kshell</title>
		<link>http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/josh-portis-not-a-franchise-qb-281011/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Kshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[T-Jack has never been a probowler or even considered for a probowl. He is a spot starter that is what he is. He isn&#039;t a starting quarterback on a team who is hoping to do anything in the playoffs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-Jack has never been a probowler or even considered for a probowl. He is a spot starter that is what he is. He isn&#8217;t a starting quarterback on a team who is hoping to do anything in the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainGroovy</title>
		<link>http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/josh-portis-not-a-franchise-qb-281011/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptainGroovy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s dumb to say that he should not be a franchise qb. Why shouldn&#039;t he?? Your number one reason that he &quot;should not be&quot; is because he went undrafted. Well, that doesn&#039;t mean that he &quot;should not be&quot; the franchise QB. With that attitude we would have 2 less ring of honor players. Just think your wording is funny. Now if you called the article  5 reasons why Portis &quot;won&#039;t&quot; be the franchise QB I could see your point, and agree that the chances are slim that he will be a pro bowl caliber QB, but just because he went undrafted doesn&#039;t mean he doesn&#039;t have a shot to develop, or shouldn&#039;t be the franchise QB. I know that I have no clue as to how his career will turn out, but I&#039;d like to see what he&#039;s got. We know he has the size, and the arm, but I&#039;m more curious about his heart, how he responds to adversity, and whether he can learn from his mistakes, at the NFL level, things that we won&#039;t be able to gage  in a draft pick, simply because they haven&#039;t had a chance to play in the NFL. Obviously our FO saw something in this kid or they wouldn&#039;t of signed him, unless you believe that our FO just picked him up to fill out the roster with a cheap option. As soon as we are eliminated officially from the division race, we should start this kid. If he shows improvement, and looks like he could develop into a full time starter, GREAT, we can use next years 1st round draft pick on a DE or a CB to shore up a D that is looking like it can develop into a top 5 D for years to come. If he shows no promise, fine, then role the dice, and hope that the QB we draft turns into something. We lose absolutely nothing by giving this kid a chance, and have everything to gain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s dumb to say that he should not be a franchise qb. Why shouldn&#8217;t he?? Your number one reason that he &#8220;should not be&#8221; is because he went undrafted. Well, that doesn&#8217;t mean that he &#8220;should not be&#8221; the franchise QB. With that attitude we would have 2 less ring of honor players. Just think your wording is funny. Now if you called the article  5 reasons why Portis &#8220;won&#8217;t&#8221; be the franchise QB I could see your point, and agree that the chances are slim that he will be a pro bowl caliber QB, but just because he went undrafted doesn&#8217;t mean he doesn&#8217;t have a shot to develop, or shouldn&#8217;t be the franchise QB. I know that I have no clue as to how his career will turn out, but I&#8217;d like to see what he&#8217;s got. We know he has the size, and the arm, but I&#8217;m more curious about his heart, how he responds to adversity, and whether he can learn from his mistakes, at the NFL level, things that we won&#8217;t be able to gage  in a draft pick, simply because they haven&#8217;t had a chance to play in the NFL. Obviously our FO saw something in this kid or they wouldn&#8217;t of signed him, unless you believe that our FO just picked him up to fill out the roster with a cheap option. As soon as we are eliminated officially from the division race, we should start this kid. If he shows improvement, and looks like he could develop into a full time starter, GREAT, we can use next years 1st round draft pick on a DE or a CB to shore up a D that is looking like it can develop into a top 5 D for years to come. If he shows no promise, fine, then role the dice, and hope that the QB we draft turns into something. We lose absolutely nothing by giving this kid a chance, and have everything to gain.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperFlyTNT</title>
		<link>http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/josh-portis-not-a-franchise-qb-281011/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>SuperFlyTNT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This WHOLE QB situation is what&#039;s killing me - more than anything about this team.  For a decade we didn&#039;t have to worry about this but do now.  Before going on about &#039;the present&#039; - I&#039;ll just do my (hopefully I will be able to let it go after this post) final rant on the QB8 era.  Anyone who knew anything about foosball (intended) knows that Matt was an EXCELLENT QB with amazing leadership skills, ability to rally, throw the ball, check down and make good to great decisions...  The downfall - the line.  I wish I could find the stat that I read about a year ago.  Someone charted an entire season of offensive snaps resulting in a pass play in 2005 and the time Matt had to throw the ball was something like 3 or 3.5 seconds.  Last year he was &quot;averaging&quot; 2 seconds of time before the pressure got to him - it&#039;s got to take a second to do the 3 step drop!  Imagine if the line gave him another full second to a second and a half last season...  Different ballgame.  I will say that he would have probably been out for the season under this line though and is probably in a better place because of it -- I still wish he played for us though.

Now, back to living in the present...  All I want to see is what we have.  I think we&#039;ve got an idea on Whitehurst is, unsure about Jackson and clueless about Portis.  Too many unknowns - Jackson was (wasn&#039;t he?) a ProBowler - of course with an all world Offensive line, ProBowl RB &amp; WR to boot.  What is he with a good but not great RB and an VERY junior line?  Is he playing at his potential or are there way too many other areas that are impairing him?  He looked AWESOME in the Giants game but did the Giants bring it that day?  Instead of a whooping I saw a mistake prone, unenthusiastic team who looked at the Hawks as a &#039;W&#039; who hadn&#039;t won in New York (Jersey) since Madonna close to actually being a Virgin -- well, at least a LOT closer to then than now... 

We know,  or at least assume - unless Pete Schneider (also intended) does anything crazy, that Whitehurst will be gone, Jackson will remain the starter and Portis will move to QB2 to comPETE with whoever they draft - in whatever round - and heck, they may even bring in a free agent QB for depth.  Now -- who do YOU want at QB2 to eventually supplant Jackson?  Barkley or Portis? Jones or Portis? G3 (Griffith the Third)? maybe some of you (I guarantee there&#039;s at least a decent percentage) that would like to see Price come out early and be in Seahawk Neon Green -- I mean blue.  I hear about this upcoming QB class being so awesome but this year&#039;s class isn&#039;t really doing as much for me even as last season.  Newton is playing out of his mind, Dalton looks very good, Ponder even looked good often at times but not frequently enough.  I think Locker will be fine and then there&#039;s Gabbert&#039;s potential and I think I&#039;m even missing someone aren&#039;t I?  Excluding Luck, will the next draft produce as many 1st round QB&#039;s that are seeing success early on?  Do you think this success will change teams draft strategies?  Will we see 5-6 QB&#039;s taken in the 1st and this time higher in the round?  Maybe 1,3,5,9,16 - something like that??

Anyway, on to Portis -- IMO (and several scouting agencies) he has ALL of the physical tools -- the size, speed and arm strength that&#039;s out of this world &gt; which contributed to many of his preseason incomplete passes.  Do you remember the ZIP?  Players needed to adjust from TJ &amp; CW&#039;s softer passes - I couldn&#039;t believe how quick he got passes to the receiver.  Made Brett Favre look like the tortise from those old Bugs Bunny cartoons - ok, slight exaggeration but it is fast..  Like I mentioned in my previous reply, if it weren&#039;t (indirectly) for Tebow, the law and changing schools, he would have been drafted.  Bad decisions cost him and now, hopefully, he&#039;s figured that all out and the world is not his on a silver platter and that he&#039;ll work for this and we&#039;ll be able to see what he can do before the season is out -- assuming the Niners run away with the division and the Wild Card will be far off in the distance.  If he stinks it up then so be it, let&#039;s figure it out before investing in a QB early next year.  If he &#039;happens&#039; to light it up then great - we can pick up an ass kicking RB or DE to free up a pick for LB depth in the 2nd or 3rd round, if not then at minimum we&#039;ll have a QB that should be a much better option than Whitehurst as a backup and most likely more ready than anyone we&#039;ll pick up in the 4th round or later next year.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This WHOLE QB situation is what&#8217;s killing me &#8211; more than anything about this team.  For a decade we didn&#8217;t have to worry about this but do now.  Before going on about &#8216;the present&#8217; &#8211; I&#8217;ll just do my (hopefully I will be able to let it go after this post) final rant on the QB8 era.  Anyone who knew anything about foosball (intended) knows that Matt was an EXCELLENT QB with amazing leadership skills, ability to rally, throw the ball, check down and make good to great decisions&#8230;  The downfall &#8211; the line.  I wish I could find the stat that I read about a year ago.  Someone charted an entire season of offensive snaps resulting in a pass play in 2005 and the time Matt had to throw the ball was something like 3 or 3.5 seconds.  Last year he was &#8220;averaging&#8221; 2 seconds of time before the pressure got to him &#8211; it&#8217;s got to take a second to do the 3 step drop!  Imagine if the line gave him another full second to a second and a half last season&#8230;  Different ballgame.  I will say that he would have probably been out for the season under this line though and is probably in a better place because of it &#8212; I still wish he played for us though.</p>
<p>Now, back to living in the present&#8230;  All I want to see is what we have.  I think we&#8217;ve got an idea on Whitehurst is, unsure about Jackson and clueless about Portis.  Too many unknowns &#8211; Jackson was (wasn&#8217;t he?) a ProBowler &#8211; of course with an all world Offensive line, ProBowl RB &amp; WR to boot.  What is he with a good but not great RB and an VERY junior line?  Is he playing at his potential or are there way too many other areas that are impairing him?  He looked AWESOME in the Giants game but did the Giants bring it that day?  Instead of a whooping I saw a mistake prone, unenthusiastic team who looked at the Hawks as a &#8216;W&#8217; who hadn&#8217;t won in New York (Jersey) since Madonna close to actually being a Virgin &#8212; well, at least a LOT closer to then than now&#8230; </p>
<p>We know,  or at least assume &#8211; unless Pete Schneider (also intended) does anything crazy, that Whitehurst will be gone, Jackson will remain the starter and Portis will move to QB2 to comPETE with whoever they draft &#8211; in whatever round &#8211; and heck, they may even bring in a free agent QB for depth.  Now &#8212; who do YOU want at QB2 to eventually supplant Jackson?  Barkley or Portis? Jones or Portis? G3 (Griffith the Third)? maybe some of you (I guarantee there&#8217;s at least a decent percentage) that would like to see Price come out early and be in Seahawk Neon Green &#8212; I mean blue.  I hear about this upcoming QB class being so awesome but this year&#8217;s class isn&#8217;t really doing as much for me even as last season.  Newton is playing out of his mind, Dalton looks very good, Ponder even looked good often at times but not frequently enough.  I think Locker will be fine and then there&#8217;s Gabbert&#8217;s potential and I think I&#8217;m even missing someone aren&#8217;t I?  Excluding Luck, will the next draft produce as many 1st round QB&#8217;s that are seeing success early on?  Do you think this success will change teams draft strategies?  Will we see 5-6 QB&#8217;s taken in the 1st and this time higher in the round?  Maybe 1,3,5,9,16 &#8211; something like that??</p>
<p>Anyway, on to Portis &#8212; IMO (and several scouting agencies) he has ALL of the physical tools &#8212; the size, speed and arm strength that&#8217;s out of this world &gt; which contributed to many of his preseason incomplete passes.  Do you remember the ZIP?  Players needed to adjust from TJ &amp; CW&#8217;s softer passes &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t believe how quick he got passes to the receiver.  Made Brett Favre look like the tortise from those old Bugs Bunny cartoons &#8211; ok, slight exaggeration but it is fast..  Like I mentioned in my previous reply, if it weren&#8217;t (indirectly) for Tebow, the law and changing schools, he would have been drafted.  Bad decisions cost him and now, hopefully, he&#8217;s figured that all out and the world is not his on a silver platter and that he&#8217;ll work for this and we&#8217;ll be able to see what he can do before the season is out &#8212; assuming the Niners run away with the division and the Wild Card will be far off in the distance.  If he stinks it up then so be it, let&#8217;s figure it out before investing in a QB early next year.  If he &#8216;happens&#8217; to light it up then great &#8211; we can pick up an ass kicking RB or DE to free up a pick for LB depth in the 2nd or 3rd round, if not then at minimum we&#8217;ll have a QB that should be a much better option than Whitehurst as a backup and most likely more ready than anyone we&#8217;ll pick up in the 4th round or later next year.  </p>
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		<title>By: Kshell</title>
		<link>http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/josh-portis-not-a-franchise-qb-281011/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Kshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of saying why it&#039;s &quot;dumb&quot; how about enlighting me and others why it&#039;s &quot;dumb&quot;? 

Give me some reasons why Portis should not be ruled out as the franchise QB? 

I bet in Denver last year I would be called an &quot;idiot&quot; too for saying Tebow isn&#039;t a franchise QB. Sometimes just best to avoid an inevitable disaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of saying why it&#8217;s &#8220;dumb&#8221; how about enlighting me and others why it&#8217;s &#8220;dumb&#8221;? </p>
<p>Give me some reasons why Portis should not be ruled out as the franchise QB? </p>
<p>I bet in Denver last year I would be called an &#8220;idiot&#8221; too for saying Tebow isn&#8217;t a franchise QB. Sometimes just best to avoid an inevitable disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Kshell</title>
		<link>http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/josh-portis-not-a-franchise-qb-281011/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Kshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seahawks have won 0% of super bowls so maybe we are doing something wrong perhaps?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seahawks have won 0% of super bowls so maybe we are doing something wrong perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Kshell</title>
		<link>http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/seahawks/josh-portis-not-a-franchise-qb-281011/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Kshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had no stats because quite frankly he has no stats. The stats I had I posted. I could have posted his D-2 stats I suppose.

Warren Moon went undrafted based purely on race not because he wasn&#039;t good enough why I didn&#039;t bring him up. 

Warner is a good one but also kind of a one in a million shot who was rather fortunate. He landed on a team with great receivers and Faulk so he looked great. Then they got old he looked bad, looked bad in NYG and bad in Arizona. Fitzgerald and Boldin matured and he looked amazing again. 

I&#039;m all for giving a guy a chance especially this year. Just tired of fans telling me off when I suggest drafting a QB in the first round. Tired of hearing &quot;Are you dumb? why would you draft a QB when we have Portis who is the future!&quot;. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no stats because quite frankly he has no stats. The stats I had I posted. I could have posted his D-2 stats I suppose.</p>
<p>Warren Moon went undrafted based purely on race not because he wasn&#8217;t good enough why I didn&#8217;t bring him up. </p>
<p>Warner is a good one but also kind of a one in a million shot who was rather fortunate. He landed on a team with great receivers and Faulk so he looked great. Then they got old he looked bad, looked bad in NYG and bad in Arizona. Fitzgerald and Boldin matured and he looked amazing again. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for giving a guy a chance especially this year. Just tired of fans telling me off when I suggest drafting a QB in the first round. Tired of hearing &#8220;Are you dumb? why would you draft a QB when we have Portis who is the future!&#8221;. </p>
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		<title>By: CaptainGroovy</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptainGroovy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually can&#039;t think of one reason why he &quot;should not be&quot; franchise quarterback of the Seahawks. Possibly some reasons why he might not end up being the franchise QB, but no reason why he shouldn&#039;t be....dumb article, stupid title. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually can&#8217;t think of one reason why he &#8220;should not be&#8221; franchise quarterback of the Seahawks. Possibly some reasons why he might not end up being the franchise QB, but no reason why he shouldn&#8217;t be&#8230;.dumb article, stupid title. </p>
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